Duane Vermeulen, speaking on the Boks Unpacked podcast with Jean de Villiers and Schalk Burger, offers a rare two-decade perspective on how Erasmus has evolved as a coach. The early Rassie would insert himself physically into training — literally joining lineouts to mess with callers' heads — driven by a raw need to compete and make an impact. What's changed, Vermeulen says, is the medium, not the intent: the physical edge has been replaced by a calculated psychological one, and when it misfires for opponents, "it becomes a shambles." De Villiers adds the sharper insight — that what looks random from Erasmus is almost never random; comments are planted deliberately, timed to land "way down the line." The match-day detail is telling too: when Erasmus stays calm, messages come through in English; when he needs to cut through, it switches to Afrikaans, leaving assistant coaches scrambling for translation.