Mike Tindall has opened up on how the notorious 2002 Test — the 53-3 drubbing where Labuschagne was red-carded for the Wilkinson hit — poisoned his view of Springbok players off the field, so much so that he threatened to leave Bath when Robbie Fleck was set to sign. The contempt was real: Tindall says Fleck said things during that game he couldn't forgive. Bath signed Fleck anyway, Fleck apologised and explained himself, and Tindall got to see his red-mist tendencies up close from the same side of the ruck — describing him as a player who would literally chase opponents around the field, completely ignoring the game itself, but genuinely brilliant when focused. Fleck is now one of his closest friends. Tindall also reflects on England's 2000 tour to South Africa, where Woodward's decision to base the squad in Joburg throughout meant players never lingered after games and had no real chance to build cross-team relationships — a logistical quirk that, combined with the physical brutality of those early encounters, shaped his initially hostile view of Bok players.