Justin Marshall's claim that Harry Wilson is currently the world's best No.8 is notable for Springbok supporters because of who it pushes into second place. Despite Wilson's 27-tackle, try-scoring display in a 50-19 loss at Eden Park, Marshall argues he outranks Jasper Wiese on the basis of sustained 80-minute involvement on both sides of the ball — a metric Wiese naturally suffers on given the Boks' forward depth. Marshall's caveat is telling: he acknowledges that Wiese's lower carry and tackle counts partly reflect the luxury of having Du Toit, Marx, and Etzebeth sharing the load, rather than any deficiency in Wiese himself. Kieran Read stops short of endorsing Wilson as the outright world No.1 but places him firmly in that conversation, emphasising his all-round skillset beyond just the work-rate. The debate is a useful lens on how Wiese is perceived externally — respected, but not yet seen as the complete, dominant presence that would make him undisputed.